Words he spoke in 1949; from the minutes of the Fifth “Values Symposium "meeting convened by W.T. Easterbrook, University of Toronto, 1949, recorded by Mary Quayle Innis in her minutes of the Fifth and Eighth meetings, U of Toronto Archives, quoted by Thomas W. Cooper in his dissertation, Pioneers in Communication: The Lives and Thought of Harold Innis and Marshall McLuhan, University of Toronto, 1979, p 176